News about the new pred movie

Discussion in 'General Predator Discussion' started by LunaticNic, Nov 25, 2015.

  1. VanXant

    VanXant Unblooded

    not sure how much of that is "canon". the heated wire thing was in on of the comics but the cloaking thing has (to my knowledge) never been offcially explained beyond the fact it's controlled by the gauntlet.
     
  2. Isubomo

    Isubomo Hunter

    Exactly, never been explained. Like I said, it's pretty much all up in our heads. There's really not much 'canon' and SWS are really lax on their creative license hold over the Franchise/IP. Heck, even the games aren't considered canon. :)
     
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  3. PredatorSpirit

    PredatorSpirit Blooded

    Only the things in first and second pred movies are canonical.
    All the rest is considered EU.
     
  4. Isubomo

    Isubomo Hunter

    First, second and third. A lot of them are actually saying P2's timeline doesn't affect P1 and Predators too much (Basically new comers can watch Predators straight after P1). P1 and Predators are definitely connected though, as much as a lot of peeps here don't like it. Remember Isabelle's dialogue, about how she's heard stories about her people calling the Predators "el demonio que hace trofeos de los hombres".. ? Predators is LEGIT. Majority of the writers responsible or who's had a hand in the franchise stick to this rule.

    Most agree though that AVP is totally in their own bubble, so non canon.

    Again, I'm not insisting, I'm just stating what I've read up on most fan sites, and the xenopedia(avp wikia, etc..), and most, if not all these sites always state that everything in this franchise is not 'bullet proof'. Unless we can get the brothers Jim and John Thomas to state something concrete about their creation, it's all up for debate. :)
     
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  5. HAL1138

    HAL1138 Blooded

    Some B movies are my most favorite movies...... Shawn of the Dead..... Army of Darkness...... etc. Bring it on!!!
     
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  6. Isubomo

    Isubomo Hunter

    Me too!!! Machete, Krull... :p
     
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  7. HAL1138

    HAL1138 Blooded

    Oh.....forgot about Krull!!!!
     
  8. predtrooper

    predtrooper Blooded

    A b movie dont meen a bad story or a bad film. Just a lower budget or unknown dirictor. Chucking lots of money at a film wont make a good film its all about the story and how its told. thats why some b movies become clasics and a lot of big budget films fade in to obscurity . Having the money to film anything doesn't mean you should. Sometimes it pays to be more creative and film less but create an atmosphere. P1 is a b movie but one of the best
     
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  9. Spikepredatorv

    Spikepredatorv Unblooded

    After reading all the posts on here let me say this. Out of all the pred movies, there's been some good stuff, there's been some bad stuff, but at the end of the day no matter which film you personally think is the best, you're still gonna go see the new one when it comes out.......right?

    On a side note, as much as I would love arnie to come back to the predators franchise, look what happened to terminator "Old but not obsolete!" LOL
     
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  10. PredatorSpirit

    PredatorSpirit Blooded

    Terminator is pointless crap since T3, and for the record Arnold was the only good thing in T5.
    With a real director and a good script Arnold will be perfect for The Predator and will wash
    the bad taste Predators left in our mouths.
     
  11. Spikepredatorv

    Spikepredatorv Unblooded

    I wasn't saying he was bad in t5, just bad to have him be so "cheesey" with the lines he was given. I'm hopeful that if he comes back to the predators franchise then it will bring it back to life and not be the nail in the coffin.
    On to a slight change, I hope that there's another AvP somewhere down the line, based on the original dark horse AvP comics and that hack writer Paul W S Anderson(the man with the turdus touch-every thing he touches turns to shit!)
     
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  12. damagecase

    damagecase Blooded

    I enjoyed the Predators take on the mythos though I think it adds very little to it. My biggest concern/complaint is it made the preds look to soft. In P1 a single pred nearly wipes out two elite military outfits. Don't forget what happened to Hopper and his men. In Predators, three preds can't even manage a rag tag bunch of killers. Thought it was more or less weak story design. There were elements I liked but felt over all it was lacking in substance and over flowing in f-bombs. I really hope Black sticks more to the original story.
     
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  13. BENSIN

    BENSIN Hunter

    The only connection between Predator and the subsequent abomination, Predators, is that Predators is a poorly thought out, poorly written, shoddy attempt at making a reboot film derived from the original Predator movie in a loose sense, featuring three awful looking, bastardized versions of the iconic Stan Winston movie monster.

    A character in Predators repeating a line from the first movie doesn't make them canonically linked at all. Predators is legit CRAP and is in its own bubble, or more appropriately, toilet.

    AVP, AVP-R and Predators were just bullshit money grabs on the part of FOX and did nothing for the movie canon, nor were they linked to the original like P2 was.
     
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  14. Nimri

    Nimri Unblooded

    The movie Predators was DEFINITELY not crap. It may have had crap stuff in it that you personally did not like pertaining to the yautja and other developments but the movie in and of itself was one of the greatest if not the greatest Predator movies. While the original predators movie is extremely well done many moments in it just seemed fake to me in that they weren't believable. That the EXPERT team would separate and get picked off one by one was one part of it and the way the commandos acted seemed like it was from a B movie. Predators on the other hand was mostly realistic in that the way the team acted was professional. Almost no hip firing or spraying , they kept together mostly and they generally all got killed together/ on screen. The other brilliant part of the Predators movie was it's theme. It's title Predators is talking more than about the new berserker; it's referring to the doctor. He was a predator as well in the end and the whole movie he was hiding in plain sight. They were showing us that there REAL LIFE predators thE are similar to the yautja: camouflaged, cold, deadly, adaptive and cruel. That was my fAvorite part of the movie. I also liked it cuz it wasn't trying to be the new Canon type of movie. It referenced the first one a lot in that it had a group of elite soldiers working together, the members get picked off slowly leaving the main characters for the showdown at the end, and it also made u love the original one more. So far all that I've read is mostly bashing on the new berserkers and saying that the old original ones are the best. Did it ever occur to you that maybe the writers did it on purpose? Heck they even put the original predator on the GOOD side so that you would be cheering for him. The viewer is no longer split between wanting the human to win and the yautja to win. In this case the two LOVED characters are on the same side fighting the enemy that EVERYVODY hates...
     
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  15. Nimri

    Nimri Unblooded

    Yes the AVP movies did not have the greatest plot but I again liked how they put the two characters that the audience cheers for on the same side. There would be no way for the aliens to be on anybody's team, they're like the daleks on Doctor Who, they and they alone are supreme and will kill anything that is not what they are. They united the fan bases of the two most successful alien movies in a decent film. What other vs movies do u know of that are decent? Most of them are B or even C movies. Sharktopus vs two headed shark or movies like that are nowhere near the caliber of avp. They even referenced the two founders of the evil weyland and yutani companies who end up screwing things up for Ripley in the Alien movies. They don't explain much at all but at least they include ties from both movies that make it plausible that Goth happen in the same universe. I am also a big Alien fan and I really liked the similarities and references they put in there to the original movies but this is Predator so xD...
     
  16. LunaticNic

    LunaticNic Hunter

    While I can agree with a few of your points, to simply accept bad stories, and furthermore be thankful for a lack luster film is a part of what gets us a cashcow sequel. AvP heavily relied on the audiences nostalgia, and the previous titles credit. Predators was a step back in the right direction, however still falls short on many levels. I also wasn't a fan of scar teaming up with a human.

    And I'm afraid of what may come with the new Predator being named "Ollie" ... doesn't sound particularly threatening ... any thoughts on the name?
     
  17. predtrooper

    predtrooper Blooded

    You all know dam well that it doesn't matter whether the film is good or bad we are all still going to watch it , not just once but several times and even if we hate it we will find something that we like and then we'll watch it again because we have a craving for it, and then one of us will build a costume. I guarantee it !
     
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  18. LunaticNic

    LunaticNic Hunter

    That's true, but I'd hate for it to keep going that way.
     
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  19. predtrooper

    predtrooper Blooded

    Nothing will ever recapture the feeling of the first film because we know to much nothing is a surprise we know how a predator acts ! The loss of anticipation dooms most sequels. And my personal opinion is stop making predator the good guy. its not cool
     
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  20. Nimri

    Nimri Unblooded

    Yeah u r right about the continuation of weak plots being bad and the name Ollie sounds awful...where did u hear that from?
     
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  21. LunaticNic

    LunaticNic Hunter

    I read it on multiple sites ... just Google "new predator ollie" XD
     
  22. Nimri

    Nimri Unblooded

    Ah so its not definite it's just something he threw out there
     
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  23. MAULER666

    MAULER666 Unblooded

    Urgh...hope it's just a red herring.
     
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  24. MAULER666

    MAULER666 Unblooded

    I'll definately watch it...regardless if it's what I really wanted or I loathe it. There's Yautja in it and that's enough for me I spose, I mean I kept going back to Transformers and they basically shat on my chidlhood lol
     
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  25. LunaticNic

    LunaticNic Hunter

    So they'll start filming soon,and IMDb still has the Predators name listed as "Ollie" so lets pray to the Gods of the Hunt it is indeed, as Mauler said, a red herring.

    That aside how do you guys feel about the cast ? So far we've got Boyd Holbrook, Olivia Munn (who is rumored to play a scientist), Keegan-Michael Key, Trevante Rhodes, Sterling K. Brown, and Jacob Tremblay (rumored to be the main characters autistic son who has a knack for deciphering languages)

    ... As for my opinion I'm not too impressed. :/ That's not to say I won't go watch it, but in my opinion it isn't looking good so far. I'm most concerned about a lead role in a predator movie going to a child (Aside from the Predator being named Ollie). I can't see him fitting into the movie(as I imagine it to be) very well, and doesn't seem to be in the spirit of Predator. The most I can see use for is just that "Ollie" will spare him similar to City Hunter sparing the female cop (forgot her name) due to being pregnant, and jungle hunter sparing Anna due to being unarmed. I also hope the rumor about Tremblay's character is incorrect as I really don't want to see an autistic kid being dragged along to hopefully translate some notes the predator was nice enough to leave behind. boyd-holbrook.jpg Olivia.jpg Keegan.jpg Trevante.jpg sterling.jpg Tremblay.jpg

    I really hope they aren't trying to make the predator more personable (sort of like scar) with the name currently attached to him.

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