Silicone P1 Suit Evolution. Pg41 Hands Video 19/07/13

REYALS

Elite Hunter
I was trying to watch you yesterday morning but I was at work so I didn't get to catch a whole lot.

The suit is looking pretty fuckin' smooth though. Definitely something to be proud of and like you stated, something to take your time on. No need to rush this bad mofo.
 

Usurper

Veteran Hunter
Well im going to try find another site to do it on later, been given a few options from people, and if I can sort one out that I can put a password on, then itll be up on FB.
 

Robillicus

Hunter
Sounds cool, Lee. I'll be sure to check that out, as I'm really curious to see how the suit moves. 

I'm also glad you're taking your time on this. You've put a ton of detail into it so far, I can't wait to see how it looks when it's all finished. 
 

Usurper

Veteran Hunter
Thanks,

I had/and to a point still have some worries about how this will look, because there is a margin for human ( ie me ) error.

anyway, I am done with like 98% of the spots, I will need to go back in with some shading and possibly a few tweaks on the spots, but other than that and the belt, I am just waiting for it to cure enough to top coat them use the matting powder.

I think I will make up some silicone quills over the weekend :D
 
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wonko

Hunter
Watching you work this morning (or afternoon depending where you're from) showed why your paint jobs turn out so well.  I keep saying this, but this is just incredible!  Could EASILY pass for screen used imo!

Brian
 

sulaco1967

Hunter
Missed the broadcast this afternoon and have downloaded the Tinychat thing...not sure how it all works Though..look forward to picking up some tips..

Jeez this silicone is something else..have just about managed to wrap my head around using latex and now this..

Feel as if I have just bought the latest I phone and they announce there is an all singing and dancing one coming out next week..lol

I know you are being modest Lee but the Translucent depths of color you have created are by far better than screen props..not in any way arse licking...It just is..

Sean
 

Usurper

Veteran Hunter
lol, 

Thanks Sean, im just trying to push what we can do from home, I think I said before but I will say it again.

BUILDING this silicone suit will cost me about the same as BUYING a RAW LATEX suit and PAYING someone to paint it.

Think about it guys, have a little faith in your abilities and the help available, you could be pushing what ive done further again. :) 

 
 

DJ Akuma

Hunter
Lee, 

not sure if you have covered this on the washed out paint concern, but i was wondering if it has something to do with it not being filled/worn. I know that the dark areas shouldn't be an issue but the ligher areas may need to have something behind it to stand out a bit more when in the light. 

Hope that makes sense. 
 

Usurper

Veteran Hunter
It totally does, and thanks for bringing it up, i noticed when i put my hand inside it makes everything darker, so im thinking all will be well when " I " am inside lol.

also looking at the spots, i am going to be tweaking them tomorrow on the sides of the ribs, although i did not strictly follow the p1 placement due to me wanting my own style, i am not happy with some sections, so more bloody spots to come hehe.
 
Really like your work on this Lee. It's very true what you said, with the proper desire and determination there is nothing you can't do. This site, videos and online schools available now are resources that make things like this possible. Buy some clay, an airbrush, read up on materials and you are on your way. In your case there's alot of talent mixed in...
 

ptgreek

Elite Hunter
the solution for the translucency problem is pre-tinting the silicone. Silicone will always have a certain translucency, but casting it raw allows it all the way to the core ( in this case the core being Lee). You can pre-tint a couple ways .. one would to use sil-pig and mix a color as close to the base coat as you want. ( always do a test on a small batch first so you know what the cured batch will look like). The other would be to flock the silicone. This is great for flesh tones. you are imbedding the flocking into the silicone. I will tint flesh with some flesh colored flocking first,  adding in blues and reds for blood vessel ( go too far ..off set with yellow) ...finishing up by flaking brown concealing makeup right into the mix ..give it a good mix and you have a very similar match to real flesh. Both methods add color integrally to the silicone, rather then just the top coats
 

Usurper

Veteran Hunter
Its not a problem really George, just a observation, and I remember us talking about pre tinting a while ago, and the flocking, but I didn't want human looking skin tones underneath, I wanted to create the look from scratch.

when its in a bright area with nothing inside certain areas looked pale, I went over those areas and then noticed filling it made a difference.   again not a big thing at all and I am not worried at all about that, im way more concerned with getting the spots on the ribs in closer. hehe

but I am not looking forward to clear coating this, then clear coating a 2nd time with the matting powder.


thanks again y'aaaaaaaaaaaall :D
 

ptgreek

Elite Hunter
ha ..i guess "problem" was a poor choice of words ..not exactly what i meant... I also just realized that your suit isnt on a positive when you are painting. Another big kudos for you brother. Lee ..out of curiosity, how are you lighting it when you are painting. With the opacity, and nothing under the silicone when you are painting, did you ever have issues with the consistency of the base color?
 

Usurper

Veteran Hunter
hehe, tis cool sir.

The base colour I used was BONE WHITE, but as the gel00 is a off white ish anyway, im still not sure if I totally covered it lol, I went over with yellow ocre shading and some muted browns, and then white then layering light 01 , back and forth so I think I got it lol.

the darker umber and sienna colours are the ones I was not loving ( as you rightly ask about consistency )  however I think it has worked due to me NOT having a solid UMBER or SIENNA undertone, ive mixed it up and mottled it a lot, but I still noticed areas where it looked like I had missed.  the lighting in my parents garage is pretty horrid , theres 1 3x3ft window at the end behind, and a garage door with 1 little overhead light, ive been having the garage door open when its not been raining to try to illuminate it as much as possible, but it has been far from ideal.

sorry that's long winded, yes I has issues with consistency lol, but that was due to the lighting more that the silicone being untinted.


ok I need coffee, I wasted too much energy typing my rambling reply.
 

ptgreek

Elite Hunter
Ha...I understood every word . For the conditions, you did an amazing job.. Hell you did an amazing job even if the conditions were perfect. I was curios about your lighting situation. It's something we are always tweaking due to the nature of silicone
 
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